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Post by genuinebowller on Apr 1, 2015 19:39:00 GMT
I have just come from a meeting in Ballymena Bowling Club which was choosing selectors for the season. We sought clarification on the new rules regarding starred players from the pgl only to discover that Ballymena, and indeed Belmont, have been put at a complete disadvantage to other teams in the league. Every club must now star 8 players who cannot play on their second team. This is totally fair. Indeed it allows all second team players to play on both teams. However as there is a third team in Ballymena, and Belmont, they also have to star 8 players in the second team who cannot play on the third team. Again totally fair. HOWEVER.... The PGL has informed us that these players starred on the second team CANNOT play for the first team!! How can this be fair? This makes the running of teams an incredibly difficult task and to be blunt gives clubs with only 2 teams a distinct advantage. Surely this was not the intention of those who proposed this new rule?
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Post by invermilarne on Apr 1, 2015 20:02:07 GMT
Would tend to agree no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to move up that I can think of, makes no sense.
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Post by enigma on Apr 1, 2015 21:20:18 GMT
The rule for starred B team players not being allowed to play for their club A team makes no sense whatsoever, these new rule changes were supposed to break down barriers EG the removal of the Junior tag and simply create 5 divisions where clubs can vie for promotion to the top tiers, without being stuck in "JUNIOR" division one. All the PGL have done here is put in unnecessary restrictions which will do nothing for player development, the PGL committee have also created additional administration for themselves with someone now having to monitor the starring system. It is not too late for them to call and EGM and overturn this unnecessary and unwarranted rule I hope that they will take action ASAP What other sport can anyone name where players from an EG soccer team cannot play for ANY team that bears that club name EG do Man utd etc first team players not play and support the second as required by their club and vice versa for the second third and youth teams, its called player development,
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Post by bemused on Apr 2, 2015 12:42:45 GMT
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Indeed as I see it the league are opening themselves up to more flouting of the rules. Not for one minute do I think that either ballymena or belmont would do this but they would be quite within their rights to do so if only to show another flaw in this ridiculous rule.
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Post by exprop on Apr 2, 2015 15:52:41 GMT
I think you may be barking up the wrong tree. The rule clearly states that starred players on the A-Team can only play on the A-Team. Starred players on the B-Team can only play on the A-Team or the B-Team. Starred players on the C-Team can only play for the A, B or C-Teams. So starred players can play on a higher team but NOT on a lower team. Non starred players can play on ANY team. Anything different is contrary to the rule as it is writ.
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Post by bemused on Apr 2, 2015 15:58:58 GMT
I think you may be barking up the wrong tree. The rule clearly states that starred players on the A-Team can only play on the A-Team. Starred players on the B-Team can only play on the A-Team or the B-Team. Starred players on the C-Team can only play for the A, B or C-Teams. So starred players can play on a higher team but NOT on a lower team. Non starred players can play on ANY team. Anything different is contrary to the rule as it is writ. that would make sense exprop but according to the first post clarification was sought on the matter & ballymena were told that starred 2nd team players cannot move up or down
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Post by winkers on Apr 2, 2015 16:12:38 GMT
If you read very carefully the Rule regarding the Registration of Players Rule 4 pages 102/3 in the IBA year book it does not stipulate that you have to submit a panel for each team, even if that is the intention, where clubs have more than 2 or 3 teams (rule 4 sections c and d). Therefore if you submit a panel of 8 Regular A team players who can only play for the A team, all other players within the club can move up or down within the remaining teams as they please, including playing for the A team. That applies to Rule 4 a c or d notwithstanding their wording tends to countermand each other. Indeed rules e and f would imply there is only one panel. Coupled with the eligability rule for Junior players in the midweek rules page 106 rule 1 (ii) some clarification is required. Appropriate common sense changes should be made by the GP committee before the start of the season for ratification later at the AGM. End of story
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Post by genuinebowller on Apr 2, 2015 17:14:03 GMT
I can confirm that we sought clarification from the PGL and this was given over the telephone.
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